Why Pandora.com Sucks

For those of you who don't know about Pandora, I am about to tell you what it is, and why it sucks. Pandora.com is a free internet radio service created by the Music Genome Project. The supposed draw of the service is that it customizes the music on a station that you create by choosing artists, songs and albums that you like. For example, if you enter Depeche Mode as an artist you like, Pandora will funnel songs and artists that are similar to Depeche Mode and their songs through the station. This sounds amazing, right? Well it's not for several reasons:

Reason #1: If you hear a song or an artist you don't like, you can rate it so it won't play again by clicking a thumbs up or thumbs down - unfortunately, this feature doesn't even work! How many goshdang times do I have to hear Christian rock songs by Reliant K disguised as "like Blink 182"? I don't know how many times I have clicked thumbs down, yet it continues to play over and over again. And although you can create multiple "stations," the ratings don't carry over. So if I try to switch to a new station my recommendation does not carry over.

Reason #2: You can skip songs, but you are limited to 6 skips. Why? I think a song is awful, so I try to move on, but the next one sucks too, and so on and so forth. If I have tried to skip 6 songs, I am forced to listen to every song that plays thereafter for the next 60 minutes. Needless to say I use up my clicks in 5 minutes because this service is awful.

Reason #3: This is the most significant reason I hate Pandora - it never fails that 10 minutes into listening, Pandora crashes and/or slows down whatever else I have open on my computer. Isn't the intent behind internet radio that we can listen to music at our desks? Well, unless you are allowed to sit and stare at your desktop all day, I wouldn't recommend listening to Pandora while trying to do work, it's just too painful.

I equate this situation to the whole independent coffee shop vs. Starbucks scenario - we all really want to patronize the indie shop, it's good for neighborhoods, the environment and our souls, but inevitably, the wait is longer, they screw up your order, and not everything is always stocked. While I would like to support the Music Genome Project, their service sucks, so for now I will be on Yahoo! Music. Even if Yahoo does have some of the same problems, at least they don't crash me.

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Comments

Huh?

I've never had an issue with Pandora. You're not "forced" to listen to anything if you switch radio stations. It never crashes on my PC - ya may want to check your PC or internet browser for other problems. Oh, and hey... a little secret... Pandora is FREE!

Too Many Slow Songs

I'm a R&B kind of girl, and grant it, I like my occasional slow jam... HOWEVER, when 90% are slow this creates a problem. I want to enjoy Pandora when I'm cleaning or doing something that requires something upbeat in the background. Instead I get one slow song after an other. I'm playing it now and the first song was fast and the last four have been slow. REALLY, PANDORA!?? I'm trying to give Slacker Radio a shot, but I'm not crazy about the dark pages and the nagivation. I guess it's time to fire up my iTunes and create some custom playlist. OH.. and speaking of forgetting the station you're on. One day I was playing an Usher station, so why was it that I was getting SLOW songs from the 60s and 70s. Something has to give!

Pandora.com

To that person who says that Pandora sucks. If you listen to Pandora while you are working on the computer and it slows the computer down, it's time to upgrade to a faster computer. It's is not Pandora's fault that your computer is slow. If you don't like Pandora, then stop listening! Maybe you can make a decision to stop doing things that annoy you. I think that your comments about Pandora suck and are unfounded. I happen to enjoy Pandora very much and find their management of the site works well. "If your not part of the solution, then your part of the problem". Stop wining and grow up!

It all makes sense

So basically you are mad because:

Reason #1: You don't understand how the service works.
Reason #2: You hate music.
Reason #3: And you have a shitty computer.

nice

well put.

The Real Reason Pandora Sucks

When I listen to Pandora, it's supposed to play me Beatlesque music. I have filled my preferred artists list with all kinds of classic-rock-type acts not too far away from The Beatles, sound-wise or historically speaking. So what do I get? Well, they always lure me in with an ACTUAL Beatles song when I first log on. From that point on, they move further and further away from what I'd like to hear. I barely hear any of my preferred artists, and before you know it, I'm listening to CLASSICAL MUSIC! I do NOT have Chopin or Mahler on my list of favorite artists. I should not be hearing that music. Frankly, just listening to a typical terrestrial classic rock station is a better 'personalized' experience for me than Pandora. I can't figure out why they're so popular. Jango and Slacker are much better. Try them for yourselves if you don't believe me.

- Wazir Nurani

Yea, but I am still using it

Yes, Pandora is sort of a crap but I' still using it. essay help

Why Pandora Sucks

As much as I was fond of Pandora initially, when the song skip limit was introduced sometime last year the service began to seem much more tedious than useful. I can never seem to find songs which I am fond of being played in MY "radio stations." Instead, I am forcibly exposed to unrelated and distasteful music.

In my opinion, Pandora's success does not lie in simply providing the consumer with access to new music, rather it relies on a voluminous and solid foundation of music that the user can relate to which is then a short reach to unknown musical content. Pandora's attempt to force its musical content on the user without access to the consumer's musical favorites is its downfall.

Pandora Crashes constantly

I try to losten to Pandora on my blackberry when I walk my dogs. I walk them every day for about 30 minutes. But I only get to listen to music on my phone for about 10 minutes. Pandora takes about 5 minutes to load, crashes shortly thereafter, and then takes another 5 minutes to reload (if at all) I was hoping to widen my music library by using Pandora instead of my Ipod, but it looks like I'm going back to Apple.

Sorry Pandora, but facts are facts and the fact is...you suck.

Bump

I too, have had a lot of trouble with Pandora. I typed in Pandora sucks and came across this blog.
I think that the OP had some good points, but it never crashed for me, either. Its just that Pandora does not seem to have that big of a selection of music. Granted, that I only listen to one or two genres, but Pandora consistently replays songs, so much so that I can't get away from two or three artists, over a couple of hours. When I do hear something I like, and I listen to other tracks by that artist, it usually turns out that those tracks suck balls. How is it that Pandora knows which song is the only good one?
And there is a lot of music that I have that Pandora doesn't know about. So its mostly useless.
Furthermore, Pandora chooses aspects of an artist or song to select songs that are similar, but somehow it chooses the aspects that are what I do NOT like about that artist.

I concur

I agree with what you say for the most part, but Pandora does not crash for us. Maybe your computer is just overloaded with data. Everything else you said is spot-on. Also - another reason Pandora sucks - you can only listen to 40 hours a month for free. I understand why, but that doesn't make it any easier to swallow.

"It's the software, Stupid."

Try again. I have a clean HD format on my computer, and it still eventually bogs down and blows up...as opposed to shoutcast stations and winamp, which runs fine until the sun burns out.

Grooveshark

Hey dude, I share your dislike-ness of Pandora.

Try Grooveshark.com

Pandora radio

I Like Pandora radio!!!I have no problem with it and they play the music I LIKE more than I thought they should...lucky huh? after Yahoo went with the same as MSN...ete...etc... I started to wonder if we were listening to USSRadio or SOMETHING...!!! (and I'm not the type to listen to (pre-staged music made to (make people think) that they like that it 'cause... so called ...(cool people listen or say & or try to sing that shit)listens to...) I like think that who ever I'm listening to, at least know what instrument makes that sound even if they don't have a band and theres music of some kind coming from somwhere...WHEW,,, yeah I guess thats
it..kind of..... -K-

dumbass

you are a fucking idiot. clearly you don't deserve to hear good music if you think that 6 songs in a row suck ass. that is why they give you the option to choose the music you like by making new radios you dumbfuck. Pandora works just fine when i have multiple things up on my screen. your shit fails. next time you try to talk shit about something, read how dumb you sound, and then fix it to make sense so that everyone wont gun on you and make you look like more of an idiot.

holy fuk NERD

holy fuk NERD RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

IDIOT

Yeah DUDE you are a fucking idiot ok like maybe one thing you said in the entire article actually made sense against pandora, Not to mention why the fuck did you even take the time to write an article speaking out against a FREE internet RADIO service b/c it wouldnt play the song you wanted to hear ....IT"S RADIO dude not and its run by a computer sorry that we didnt play every song u wanted to hear wow now i'm wasting my time just wanted to remind you it's a free service man lighten up if you dont want to listen to it fine but dont say it sucks and or try to act like it's useless it's hours of free intertainment if you want every song you hear to be awesome buy go to i tunes or buy a fucking CD douche bag.

"intertainment" man?

intertainment is not a word. I'm guessing you meant entertainment. Try using better English instead of substituting the word you want for "fucking". Who's the idiot now...

orly?

you are one stupid ass troll. 0/10

Pot Calling the Kettle Black

1) This is a Blog. This individual has the right to discuss his feelings about this "service" and you have the right to not read it. If you disagree with his viewpoints, try presenting your rebuttal in a clear well presented manner which will encourage mature discussion. (hint: Try using appropriate punctuation.)
2) Yes, Pandora is a free service, unless you choose to upgrade. This does not mean that the user is not allowed to comment on the service being offered to him. Pandora is being presented as a useful tool for the discover of new songs and artists. If the service being presented does not perform that function to the user's satisfaction he has the right to pass on this information to others.
3) This piece was written in 2007. I believe it's a safe assumption that some aspects of the service being discussed have changed, thereby solving some of the difficulties.
4)This is not strictly "radio" and has not been advertised as such. Welcome to the year 2010! You may find that some things have changed since the 1980's.

As it stands, enough of us have been frustrated by Pandora's "usefulness" to find and read this blog.

Oh the 1980's. The last

Oh the 1980's. The last decade before Bill Clinton royally fucked the industry by consolidating ownership? Yeah that decade that was fucking awesome.

2010 sure seems to be doing great am I right? Recession, jobs being outsourced or replaced by robots. Yeah 2010. Fucking awesome. College radio FTW.

RE: Idiot

You claim that the author of this article is an "idiot" for sharing his opinion about Pandora and yet you [the idiot] spent the time necessary to read this article and then attacked its author without rebutting any of his opinions. Your contradictory actions lead me to one conclusion: you're an idiot.

I don't know what your problem is but this article mirrored my feelings exactly. Kudos to the author.

If you like crappy music,

If you like crappy music, Pandora will play you music that is similarly crappy. It's not Pandora's fault you have bad taste. If you want to hear a specific song, play it on youtube or do a google search.

You can Skip Songs

So after you reach your skip limit on Pandora it's very easy to get around that.
1. A song comes on you either you dont feel like listening or you gave it a thumbs down, but it wont skip the song.
2. Just hit the refresh button on the top of your page, it will skip the song; and you can refresh the page as many times as you want I probly do it 12-20 times per day, be sure to rate the songs you hear before you refresh the page, otherwise they might play again.

boo hoo

Everyone on here sounds like a bunch of crying little bitches! You wanna know what really sucks in life? People who bitch and moan about Pandora. YOU ALL CHOKE ON THAT! I hope your computers blow up and burn your faces off.............

off

wow thats heavy, much heavier than what I said meant..and they only save mine 4 a pre view or a per view.(poor view) PUR!!!...vi..oh well I may die never knowing....lol....lol....lol....lol

You wanna know why Else they SUCK!!!!!

you don't get to listen to the song you wanted to all the time but something similar. If im in the mood to hear Veteran of the psychic war, then i wanna hear that, not some Ghey shitt that i didnt ask for it to play... UGH im so done with pandora, I could care less about the amount of hours, my reason is because i wanna listen to the song i picked, not the songs they want me to hear. Pandora can go to hell and burn in fiery Damnation!!!

Yep!

I was so frustrated I actually typed into google "I hate pandora" and found this blog. Sorry for my improper writing I'm not gonna edit this shit. It's a waste of time even writing except to share why the service, Pandora, that I'm disgusted with, sucks.

These are just some of the reasons...

I'm trying to hear Citizen Cope "Let the Drummer Kick" from 2002. I heard it the other day and wrote it down so i could hear it again. I forgot about that song and really was in the mood to hear it. I go to pandora.com, type it in, oddly enough the song started to play "I think..." not sure since I couldn't find the song name in all this tiny flash player text and I tend to move very fast on the Internet when I have stuff to do.

Now sometimes I am playing Pandora and 15-20 minutes later it stops the song and makes me sign in... retarded. SOoo... I'm thinking, "I'm gonna be on the Internet for awhile so I mind as well sign in." Everything is playing while it is asking for my login stuff, and if you're familiar with Pandora they designed the flash player etc. so everything keeps playing while you browse etc... I sign in and it stops the song that is playing. GREAT! So now I go and try to play it again. Cant get it to play at all.

I think they might play songs people want for unregistered users to lure them in... unknowing that once registered they will never be able to hear what they want when they want. FURTHERMORE, if you are using it as a radio station at work or doing computer tasks, I don't know how long it is, but eventually it stops and asks "are you still there?" or some crap... so an hour later I'm wondering why I'm all stressed and I'm like hey what happened to the music? Sure enough I have to go find the pandora tab in firefox and click "im still here" or some crap. How frustrating!

I am going to pay for a rhapsody subscription again. For the hassle Pandora puts you through I also label it "sucks".

The only upside is not having to spend time to make playlists. They usually play music I like.

Dumb Ass

You good sir are retarded, it's a RADIO station not a bitch-till-I-hear-my-song station go to youtube for that and don't bitch on blogs.

tan(rant)

I don't mind the ads, the skipping limitations, etc.
It's free music, often things I've never hear before.

The problem I have with it is that it seems to decide that it needs 90% of my cpu power just to exist, or something. What the heck.

I can only accept this in those very rare moments, where I'm not actually using my computer for anything, but I'm still near it. And even then, because I don't use it otherwise - since if you're going to take that much of my CPU power, you better be taking that much of my attention, too, and though I listen to music just to listen to it sometimes, that's no good the rest of the time...

Well, tangent went, but because I don't use it otherwise, I never think to use it when I wouldn't mind using it.

tl;dr pandora is DEAD to me. DEAD I say, DEAD!

yahoo music isn't that great,

yahoo music isn't that great, its basically the same as good old winamp radio but with less choices + ads
btw coffee shop vs. Starbucks scenario is a bad example but relevant to your argument, since Starbucks has lower quality coffee, longer wait times

Cheapskates!

Everybody wants something for nothing. You gripe about commercials. You gripe about having to pay $30 a year (yes, an entire year!) for free, customized music. You gripe about network interruptions. Well, you get what you pay for.... and at zero cost that entitles you to no complaining! None! This is why Pandora is now asking for subscriptions to support their efforts. Pay a nominal fee, avoid the commercials and interruption in playtime. These people have spent a lot of time creating what I think is an incredible music experience. Perfect? Probably not. Superior to most options? Hell yes! Quit your bitching and pitch something in to support the project. $30 a year is so nominal it's embarrassing that anybody would even complain about it.

Not worth it do to lack of functionality!!

I don't have a problem with paying for it, especially at the minimal cost they are offering the service for, I have a problem with the lack of functionality, and clearly they are making enough money to update the application to something more user focused. Version 1, which it appears we are still on was nice, but needs to be expanded now. what if I want Frank Sinatra all day, all the time? How can you do that on Pandora? You can't, you will get everything but Frank Sinatra. And if you read through this entire blog, you will see that the biggest piece of functionality that users are requesting is to limit the "songs like" your selected artist, and play the artist you selected. Besides the add revenue they are raking in, you would be suprised how many people would pay for a subscription if they had that functionality.

Bingo

You hit the nail on the head.

Zero Cost?

Firstly, my time, my attention, and my personal information are not free, so Pandora is not"zero cost." And who are you to say who can and can't complain about what?

Personally, if Pandora had done what I wanted, I would have gladly paid a fee to use it. My problem with it is that it fails in its main task; to accurately guess what kind of music I want to listen to. Pandora fails completely to consider "emotional content" or "thematic content" as subjects worthy of considering.

For example, try and create a station that consists of dark-themed, slightly country songs about death and betrayal. Pandora will invariably suggest songs based on vocal harmonization and repeated chord patterns. It will get the country element, but it will suggest bouncy country and bluegrass music.

I know certain elements of my station are subjective, but they should at least be considered.

heh

Are you idiotic? Out of skips? Hit refresh. Pandora isn't paying for YOUR time. They are providing a service you can use for free, and then you bitch about it like they injured you. It's like listening to a child complain at the supermarket and tell his mom he hates her because she didn't buy something he wanted. Even though the child is still getting everything for free. Lag? Everyone I know, world across has had little to no trouble with pandora lagging or slowing down their PC after 10 minutes, let alone at all, that's probably a shitty client side issue that has nothing to do with the Pandora service itself. As for it playing songs you don't like, thumbs down, out of skips? Hit refresh. Durhur.

not realy

i payed the $ and i still get ads, the only thing i got was unlimited thumb downs and skips

..

Far too many commercials. Previously I used to listen to pandora to find new things to listen to. Now there are a truly ridiculous amount of ads, in addition to there being video ads (Which are terrible) even when I listen to 4 seconds of a song and switch the station. To be honest my typical response is to remember the companies interrupting my enjoyable experience, and not buy things from them. But to be quite frank, I won't be using pandora anymore because of the ludicrous amount of advertising, I will be advising everyone I recommended it to originally to do the same.

Ironically the royalties they're forcing you to pay, which caused you to increase advertising, which made more users leave have probably lead to more lost revenue on the part of labels. As I won't be buying the music of any bands I do not know about, and this was the best method of hearing new music similar to what I already enjoy.

video ads...are you kidding

When are these companies going to realize that a poor advertisement campaign will only run customers away.

Pandora is full of to much advertisement poor quality advertisement, and worse of all the wrong advertisement medium. Pandora is a radio station, why do they have slow loading video advertisement that does nothing more than tie up my computer.

crazy ads

I agree - I used to love pandora and rep it to people I meet, who don't know how to find new music.

But, these ads. I can't stand the video ads when I change my station, and I can't play Pandora for social gatherings anymore because of the obnoxious audio ads every 5 minutes. I don't want to listen to ads about Ludacris and Tag Body Spray on my Ambient or Classical music channels!? wtf, pandora?

iMeem is a new and similar service with less BS. Pandora sucks.

I dont know

About ads, I really don't get any. Hey I don't switch stations etc. I type in a song I want to hear, which of course I can't, but Pandora picks some stuff I usually like and some of which I forgot about or haven't heard before. So for that, good. Now about ads, I don't really get too many in audio format. As far as ads on their page? I get none. I use the Ad Block Plus extension in Firefox and presto. Plus I never seen a video ad, like I said though, its a tab in Firefox, I don't view the page or player unless I have to. It is frustrating when playing Call of Duty MW2 online though sometimes.

Re: crazy ads

I have to say, I rep Grooveshark now....which is almost completely unlimited besides the one ad on the right side of it.

ANYWAYS, to anyone that has ever had pandora suggested to them (of which i might have suggested it to you....) USE GROOVESHARK.COM INSTEAD. Same features as pandora when you enable the "Radio" or "AutoPlay" feature, but you can ALSO select SPECIFIC songs and make playlists of your own.

Suck it

Pandora SUCKS!
The ads have gotten over done on the site... it used to be just a banner now its a video clip ever 2 songs T.T

Frusterating!

I actually really like Pandora, except for lately where i have to pay for this crap. I work more than 40 hours a week and I listen to music the entire time, its BS that i can only listen to stupid pandora for 2 weeks then i have to pay to listen. F that! I just go elsewhere and if i find another radio station that i like better i'm damn sure going to leave pandora for good. I think its ridiculous, its suppose to be free, I've been a pandora member for a long time and all of a sudden they're gettin greedy and charging even though they make us listen to stupid ads every 5th damn song. I'm extremely frusterated with pandora at this point and if something doesnt change they're going to lose me and all my friends. I can't even log out and log in to a different account because it saves my IP address and wont allow it. Its damn annoying and I'm very pissed off.

pandora radio

I just wish they would say the name of their "My station" after their ads...lol but i do it and only those listening too with me can hear it.....lol even if they're not...(could be sleeping...may have already left)...I'm gonna go check bb ltr....lol

Contrary to popular belief...

Actually it's possible to make multiple accounts on Pandora and listen to it as much as you want. You simply have to find the pandora.com folder that's on your computer somewhere, and delete the .sol files located within. Quick and easy, and it's a way around Pandora's rigid making money scheme.

I personally like Pandora quite a bit, until this 40 hour a week thing started blocking me. Now I don't have to worry about that, I found a way around it, but unfortunately I think it'll also mean I loose my old radio stations. Ohh well, 40 more hours of music is worth it ;)

ist simple

Just download CCleaner check all the boxes and bam, you can log into your other account

CCleaner is free***check every box in Internet explorer***

I've been doing this since they put that 40 hour crap, I have 3 accounts and they last me all month

Happy listing

no lost just gain

And you won't lose your old radio stations, they are stored on your account.
by deleting the pandora folder you'll just get the login screen*instead of already being loged in*

if you forget any files though the time caries, example:
if you have 4 hours left on one account and 30 on another, if you don't delete all the files the 4 hours will transfer over to your 30 hour account

ccleaner should get all the files Np

*if need I'll post what I have checked in CCleaner*

:::LINK:::
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

?????

i cant find a pandora or pandora.com folder anywhere on the hard drive...

???

maybe u had a virus @ pandora.cum ,,lol